The Disciple Standard Podcast sparks the conversations the church can’t afford to avoid.
In an age where shallow faith and cultural conformity often pass as discipleship, we believe it’s time to raise the standard. Hosted by pastors Aaron Mamuyac and Scott Vander Ploeg from Sunlight Community Church, this show is part rallying cry, part discipleship manual, and part therapy session for believers who are hungry for something real. What started as a side conversation between church leaders has become a growing movement to restore the clarity, power, and urgency of biblical discipleship.
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The Disciple Standard Podcast sparks the conversations the church can’t afford to avoid. In an age where shallow faith and cultural conformity often pass as discipleship, we believe it’s time to raise the standard. Hosted by pastors Aaron Mamuyac and Scott Vander Ploeg from Sunlight Community Church, this show is part rallying cry, part discipleship manual, and part therapy session for believers who are hungry for something real. What started as a side conversation between church leaders has become a growing movement to restore the clarity, power, and urgency of biblical discipleship.
The Disciple Standard Podcast sparks the conversations the church can’t afford to avoid. In an age where shallow faith and cultural conformity often pass as discipleship, we believe it’s time to raise the standard. Hosted by pastors Aaron Mamuyac and Scott Vander Ploeg from Sunlight Community Church, this show is part rallying cry, part discipleship manual, and part therapy session for believers who are hungry for something real. What started as a side conversation between church leaders has become a growing movement to restore the clarity, power, and urgency of biblical discipleship.
Subscribe and listen today!
Why This Podcast Exists
The modern church is facing a discipleship crisis.
Despite an abundance of programs, sermons, and Christian content, many believers remain spiritually underdeveloped, relationally isolated, and missionally disengaged. We believe the way forward is not louder hype or flashier services—but deeper, more honest conversations about what it really means to follow Jesus in today’s world. That’s why we created this podcast: to open up the kinds of conversations we wish more churches were having. No fluff. No fear. Just truth, grace, and guts.
Recent Episodes
You Can Preach the Bible... and Still Miss Jesus
In this episode of The Disciple Standard Podcast, we break down Seron's recent sermon and use ...it as a springboard into a much bigger conversation about preaching.
We discuss:
• Why stories should never come before the text
• The biggest mistakes new preachers make
• Whether seminary trains pastors the right way
• The strengths—and weaknesses—of popular preaching methods
• Why every sermon must ultimately lead to Jesus and the gospel
Whether you're a pastor, Bible teacher, seminary student, or simply someone who wants to understand faithful biblical preaching, this conversation will challenge the way you think about sermons.
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Timestamps
02:24 The 50-Minute Sermon
06:20 Preaching While Sick
07:17 Brutal Feedback at Preachers Pit
08:06 Starting With the Text
12:21 Scott's First Sermon
14:24 How Scott Prepares to Preach
17:05 Why Scott Stopped Using Notes
18:42 What Made Saron's Sermon Effective
20:10 Finding Your Own Preaching Voice
22:53 The Four-Page Method Debate
25:02 Christ-Centered vs Gospel-Centered Preaching
29:36 Can Good Methods Produce Bad Sermons?
31:29 Why Seminaries Need the Local Church
35:10 Seminary vs Real Ministry Experience
36:26 "Jesus Isn't in Every Old Testament Text?"
40:24 Higher Criticism and Biblical Interpretation
42:08 Final Thoughts
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In this episode of The Disciple Standard Podcast, we break down Seron's recent sermon and use ...it as a springboard into a much bigger conversation about preaching.
We discuss:
• Why stories should never come before the text
• The biggest mistakes new preachers make
• Whether seminary trains pastors the right way
• The strengths—and weaknesses—of popular preaching methods
• Why every sermon must ultimately lead to Jesus and the gospel
Whether you're a pastor, Bible teacher, seminary student, or simply someone who wants to understand faithful biblical preaching, this conversation will challenge the way you think about sermons.
👍 Like, subscribe, and join the conversation in the comments.
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Timestamps
02:24 The 50-Minute Sermon
06:20 Preaching While Sick
07:17 Brutal Feedback at Preachers Pit
08:06 Starting With the Text
12:21 Scott's First Sermon
14:24 How Scott Prepares to Preach
17:05 Why Scott Stopped Using Notes
18:42 What Made Saron's Sermon Effective
20:10 Finding Your Own Preaching Voice
22:53 The Four-Page Method Debate
25:02 Christ-Centered vs Gospel-Centered Preaching
29:36 Can Good Methods Produce Bad Sermons?
31:29 Why Seminaries Need the Local Church
35:10 Seminary vs Real Ministry Experience
36:26 "Jesus Isn't in Every Old Testament Text?"
40:24 Higher Criticism and Biblical Interpretation
42:08 Final Thoughts
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In this episode of the Disciple Standard Podcast, we tackle one of today's most debated ...topics: Christian nationalism. Is loving your country a biblical virtue or can it become an idol? Should Christians pledge allegiance to their nation? Can believers faithfully serve in government or the military? And what happens when loyalty to your country conflicts with loyalty to Christ?
Rather than chasing political talking points, we try to think biblically through a conversation that many Christians are struggling to navigate.
In this episode we discuss:
- What Christian nationalism actually means
- Can Christians be patriotic?
- Should Christians pledge allegiance?
- Military service and following Christ
- Two Kingdoms theology
- Faith and politics
- Where a Christian's highest loyalty belongs
We'd love to hear your thoughts in the comments.
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Timestamps:
01:54 Why Are Churches Talking About Christian Nationalism?
03:28 Is This a Real Issue or Just a Distraction?
06:01 Should Christians Pledge Allegiance?
10:02 Would a Christian Fight for Their Country?
12:18 Responsibilities to Your Nation
17:04 Can Christians Govern Fairly?
18:30 Should a Christian Mayor Allow a Mosque?
22:28 What Does "Christian Nationalism" Actually Mean?
26:16 Is It Just a Political Label?
28:06 Should America Be Christian?
29:53 The Two Kingdoms Explained
33:23 Can Christians Have Two Allegiances?
42:22 Church vs. Government Authority
45:17 Abortion, Law & Christian Convictions
48:54 Is Legislating Christian Values Wrong?
53:24 Final Thoughts
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nobody remembers he was here.
That's not humility for its own sake, it's a conviction
he's spent the last ...decade building into the structure of
Sunlight. Fewer sermons. More leaders. A church that doesn't
rise and fall on one person.
This week we get into all of it.
What we cover:
• Why Pastor Scott went from preaching 50 Sundays a year to 17
• The celebrity pastor model: what it costs churches and why it keeps failing
• The leadership pyramid: assigned tasks, self-initiated tasks, leadership ministry, legacy
• What it actually means to "unleash the power of everybody"
• Seron's recent unlock and how his cycling group changed how he thinks about recruiting
• The Nico and Nick Rutter story: what happens when a layperson just shows up
• Psalm 90 and the only legacy that actually lasts
We can't make our own lives matter. But God can establish the work of our hands.
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Timestamps:
1:33 – The stat: Scott went from 50 sermons a year to 17
3:49 – Scott's mindset shift — what changed and why
5:07 – The megachurch era and how it centralized everything around one person
7:11 – What happens when that one person falls — and why it keeps happening
8:37 – "I don't want this church to rise and fall off one bad choice I make"
9:29 – Multiple campuses, pros worship, doing more by preaching less
10:10 – Seron's growth as a leader — from doing everything to trusting his team
11:32 – The anxiety blocking leaders from raising up other leaders
13:02 – Why Sunlight's VBS is the best in the country (Scott's take)
14:09 – Trusting people to do the task you gave them
15:09 – The farming metaphor: why people aren't meant to be self-sustaining
19:37 – The parallel to church: unleash the power of everybody
21:23 – A church of 20,000 with one preacher vs. a church of 100 with four
24:51 – What a church actually is — and why the Great Commission belongs to everyone
26:10 – Passive watchers vs. active participants
27:16 – "Just ask them" — Seron's deceptively simple answer to the volunteer problem
27:36 – The Nick Rutter story: what Nico's discipleship actually produced
29:42 – The leadership pyramid explained
38:21 – Assigned ministry tasks: the entry point
41:01 – Self-initiated tasks: creativity meets execution
43:40 – "I'm just the idea guy" — and why that doesn't work
44:05 – Leadership ministry: what actually makes someone a leader
48:20 – Legacy ministry: making yourself simultaneously obsolete and irreplaceable
49:13 – Why "obsolete" makes Seron uncomfortable
49:30 – Scott turns 50 — and his dream for what Sunlight looks like when he's gone
53:18 – "We can't make our own lives matter — but God can"
54:00 – Psalm 90: establish the work of our hands
56:37 – The Vander Ploeg Pig Farm in Nigeria (and why it's probably gone)
58:39 – The missionaries who found Seron's grandmother — and the ripple effects
1:01:04 – Why raising up leaders whose legacy is bigger than yours is the goal
1:02:34 – Seron's prayer before every Sunday — and what he realized he'd lost sight of
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something felt different.
Pastor Scott was on the floor. He chaired an advisory committee,
gave a speech, and ...watched the CRC adopt a 3-year action plan for
church planting. This week he breaks down what happened, what it
meant, and what has to come next.
What we get into:
→ Why Synod 2026 actually feels like a turning point
→ The speech that stopped the room: "I am done being cynical"
→ Scott's own floor speech — gospel-sized, imperfect action
→ The 3-year church planting plan and what it's really asking of people
→ Why 222Disciple just crossed 2,000 disciples made
→ What classes, pastors, staff, and laypeople should do right now
→ The two things the CRC has to let go of: cynicism and perfectionism
The vote happened. Now comes the hard part.
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In this episode of the Disciple Standard Podcast (our first ever livestream!), we break down:
→ What Zach King actually said on the floor of Synod — and what it meant
→ Tim Sheridan's plan for turning the denomination around
→ Why "let's pray about it" keeps frustrating us (and why that's also unfair)
→ The difference between mercy ministry and gospel ministry
→ What the first real moves need to be if this is going to gain traction
→ Why 70+ churches have closed in 4 years — and what that urgency really means
We've been talking about the CRC's decline for years on this podcast. This week, something actually happened. Now what?
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In this episode of the Disciple Standard Podcast, we react to some viral ministry clips — and end up somewhere we didn't expect: a deep conversation about the gospel, what it means to speak to the heart, and what makes a church truly thrive.
We cover:
→ Does a pastor's dress code matter — or distract?
→ A visit to a Catholic wedding Mass and what genuinely surprised us
→ A church in Nampa, Idaho that's changing lives — and why
→ What it actually means to "internalize" God's Word (and what it doesn't mean)
→ Is mockery ever okay for Christian leaders?
Whether you're a pastor, church leader, or someone trying to grow in your faith — this one's worth the full listen.
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Timestamps:
0:34 – Reacting to the sleeping bag vest pastor
1:13 – Dress code debate: Does it matter what pastors wear?
3:11 – "Stop wearing the frog" — leading your own staff on appearance
5:57 – How the church has shifted away from "Sunday best" culture
7:18 – The first jeans sermon at Sunlight (a historic moment)
8:37 – When dress code becomes a heart issue
12:52 – Reacting to a Catholic wedding Mass
15:18 – Incense, the mass, and transubstantiation — a Protestant perspective
21:30 – Visiting a church in Nampa, Idaho on vacation
24:48 – The sermon that blew everyone away (Blessed are the poor in spirit)
28:26 – What makes a sermon speak to the heart — and can you learn it?
33:30 – God blesses churches that cling to the gospel
39:25 – Reacting to the pastor who made someone eat a Bible page
42:45 – Biblical background: Ezekiel, Revelation & internalizing God's Word
46:41 – Should Christian leaders ever mock false teaching?
52:40 – Wrap-up and next week's episode
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In this episode of The Disciple Standard Podcast, Aaron, Zach, and Seron tackle one of the most uncomfortable ...topics in Christianity: accountability inside the church.
Is church discipline biblical? How should churches handle sin, moral failure, false teaching, or leaders who fall? What happens when someone repents? And why does modern culture struggle so much with correction and accountability?
The conversation explores real-life examples, church leadership structures, restoration, forgiveness, and how the gospel shapes the way Christians respond to sin.
Whether you've experienced church discipline firsthand, have questions about accountability in the church, or simply want to understand what Scripture teaches, this episode offers a thoughtful and practical discussion.
👇 Let us know in the comments:
Have you ever seen church discipline done well?
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Timestamps:
3:44 Should Christians use profanity?
9:55 Megachurch pastor raps the Song of Moses
13:36 Benny Hinn, miracles, and spiritual manipulation
20:48 Introducing the topic: Church Discipline
22:40 What church discipline actually is
24:54 Protecting the holiness of the church
25:55 What if a worship leader is stealing?
29:49 Church discipline as discipleship
30:18 What if someone commits adultery?
35:02 Is accountability the responsibility of the whole church?
37:41 The goal of church discipline: Restore, Protect, Honor
39:03 Why churches avoid church discipline
42:05 Better to do discipline imperfectly than not at all?
42:32 The church accountant who embezzled money
45:31 Public confession, repentance, and restoration
47:09 Why people leave before restoration can happen
50:11 What if a pastor had an affair?
52:20 Church discipline is not punishment
53:21 How accountability works at Sunlight
55:33 Living faithfully through the consequences of sin
57:00 How leaders should handle serious failures
58:30 Why trust in leadership is declining (next episode)
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Would Paul, Peter, or the early disciples even recognize what we call "church" today?
We dive ...deep into:
• The true biblical definition of church vs. our modern building-centered model
• Why the early church met in homes, underground cities, and public spaces
• The Pros Worship Service experiment (Public Scripture Worship) in Fort Pierce
• Why one new believer said: "I hate Reckless Love"
• Psalms vs. modern worship songs — Can your conscience be bound to songs written by "Cody"?
• Church planting: Expensive buildings vs. viral, low-cost multiplication
• What happened when Christianity went from persecuted to powerful in 313 AD
This episode will challenge your assumptions about what "going to church" really means.
If you're tired of surface-level Christianity and want to think deeply about worship, community, and mission, this is for you.
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Timestamps:
00:00 - Intro & The Big Question
00:52 - Would the Apostles Recognize Our Churches?
03:53 - The Pros Worship Service Experiment
06:54 - Church Planting History & Buildings
11:46 - Can We Plant 1,000 Churches?
14:34 - What Even Is "Church"?
19:17 - The Problem With Needing Buildings
22:52 - When Christianity Gained Power (313 AD)
26:13 - Biblical Definition of Church
35:10 - Table Discussions & Real Questions
40:26 - "I Hate Reckless Love"
43:18 - Should We Only Sing the Psalms?
52:30 - Why the Psalms Capture the Full Human Experience
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From caring for ...your body as the temple of the Holy Spirit (including a candid weight loss journey and cycling stories), to tattoos, resilience, and the big question: Should you church shop… or commit?
We explore:
• Is neglecting your body a sin?
• Why church membership matters in an individualistic culture
• When is it okay to leave a church?
• Consumer Christianity vs. true gospel-centered community
• Building real relationships that spur one another toward love and good deeds
If you've ever wondered whether to stay or go, or felt like church is just an event you attend on Sundays, this episode is for you.
Join Aaron, Seron, and Scott as they keep it real about faith, body stewardship, and the power of covenant community.
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Timestamps below ↓
01:51 Bike Talk, Sit Bones & Cycling Tangent
04:58 Is Being Overweight a Sin? Your Body as God's Temple
06:34 Idolizing Health vs. Neglecting the Temple
09:30 Tattoos, Goats & Life Before Christ (Saron's Testimony)
16:58 Building Resilience Through Church Family
20:21 What Church Membership Really Means
22:08 Church Shopping vs. Being Called to a Local Body
27:33 Why You Should Join AND Stay at a Church
33:02 What It Says If You Don't Want Church Membership
35:18 From Parish Model to Megachurch – How Church Changed
39:51 Community vs. Entertainment/Event Christianity
46:15 Accountability & Real Relationships in Church
53:43 "I'm Not Being Fed" – Music, Preaching & Heart Posture
01:01:15 Mature Christians: Move from Consumer to Contributor
01:05:17 When Should You Leave a Church? (The Game)
01:11:47 Final Thoughts & Wrap Up
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Do you need years of Bible knowledge before you can teach? What happens when Christians disagree on baptism, communion, theology, or even what the ...“fundamentals” of Christianity are?
In this episode of the Disciple Standard Podcast, the conversation gets real about discipleship, fear, theology, church division, and why learning often happens while teaching. The guys wrestle through questions surrounding church unity, denominational differences, sacraments, and whether Christians expect too much agreement from each other.
Whether you’re new to the faith, discipling someone, or wrestling through church questions yourself, this conversation is for you.
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Timestsmps
2:25 — Reactions to the Baptism & Communion Episodes
4:22 — “Should Babies Be Baptized?”
5:25 — What Makes Someone a Christian?
6:42 — Is It Dangerous for New Christians to Teach?
7:09 — The Problem With Centralized Theology
8:14 — Learning Theology in Real Time
11:24 — What Is a Disciple, Really?
13:01 — Why Learners Become Teachers
14:12 — The Jiu Jitsu Analogy for Discipleship
15:14 — “If You Don’t Start, You Never Will”
18:20 — The More You Know, The More You Realize You Don’t Know
19:32 — Fear, Pride, and Discipleship
21:39 — Never Think of Yourself as an Expert
23:26 — Why Teaching Solidifies Your Faith
25:49 — Should Christians Agree on Everything?
27:33 — “Uniform Theology Creates Cults”
30:38 — What Are the Fundamentals of Christianity?
35:02 — The Lowest Bar for Being a Christian
38:08 — What Theology Is Actually Essential?
40:39 — Tattoos, Christian Freedom & Church Culture
43:06 — Why Christians Interpret Scripture Differently
46:15 — What Are Good Reasons to Leave a Church?
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In this deeply personal episode of the Disciple Standard Podcast, the guys talk about parenting, church hurt, grace, shame, identity, divorce, hypocrisy, and the hidden ...ways people develop their understanding of themselves.
After a heartbreaking conversation with his 6-year-old daughter, Aaron wrestles with how kids internalize sin, failure, and grace at a shockingly young age. Jerry opens up about growing up in a graceless religious culture, living a double life, divorce, regret, and how the gospel reshaped the way he sees himself and others.
This episode dives into:
- Why so many Christians struggle with shame
- The difference between grace and legalism
- How parents shape identity in children
- Why people hide behind “church versions” of themselves
- What church hurt really is
- How grace changes the way we see sin
- Why broken people often understand grace the deepest
This one gets honest.
👇 Let us know in the comments:
What shaped YOUR sense of self growing up?
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Timestamps:
1:20 - What shapes our sense of self?
2:13 - Jerry explains covenant theology
5:26 - Dysfunction, divorce, and identity
7:13 - “Am I done with my life?”
8:28 - Ron on feeling far from God
10:39 - “What if God gave us what we deserve?”
12:42 - Aaron’s daughter says “I feel ugly”
14:34 - Teaching kids grace instead of shame
16:08 - Tim Keller on identity and sense of self
17:26 - Grace vs legalistic Christianity
18:44 - Church hurt and broken people
21:16 - Kids are always watching you
23:03 - How childhood shapes identity before language
24:53 - “I’m still going to scar my kids somehow”
27:04 - Raising kids who understand grace
28:16 - How graceless Christianity gets created
29:21 - Jerry opens up about never feeling enough
31:16 - Meeting Steve Brown changed everything
32:21 - “Grace is scandalous”
35:28 - Living a double life in church
38:08 - Teaching kids to own their mistakes
40:50 - Why modern kids struggle with responsibility
44:28 - Jerry on parenting through divorce
48:34 - You don’t understand grace without brokenness
50:40 - Christians shouldn’t hide from the world
52:56 - Broken people understand grace deeper
54:15 - The older you get, the more regrets you carry
55:00 - The gospel changes you from the inside out
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In this episode of the Disciple Standard Podcast, we tackle the questions people are actually asking:
Why do ...some churches baptize babies?
Does baptism save you?
Should you ever get baptized more than once?
And what’s the real difference between Catholic, Reformed, and believer’s baptism?
We also share a wild moment where someone interrupted a baptism mid-service—and why conversations like this matter more than we think.
At the core of it all: baptism isn’t about us—it’s about what God has done.
Watch the full conversation and decide for yourself.
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Timestamps:
1:21 Intro + Setting Up the Conversation
2:07 Beach Baptisms + The Question Everyone Asks
2:29 “Why Do You Baptize Babies?”
3:02 The Craziest Baptism Moment We’ve Ever Seen
5:00 Can Baptism Save You?
6:06 Reformed View of Baptism Explained
7:30 Infant Baptism vs Believer’s Baptism
9:01 Catholic vs Protestant Baptism Differences
11:26 What the “Covenant” Actually Means
14:10 Visible vs Invisible Church Explained
15:15 Should You Get Baptized Again?
17:27 Baby Dedication vs Baptism
20:08 “God Says: I’ve Got You”
22:07 Why People Want to Be Baptized Again
24:26 A Powerful Picture of Church Community
25:31 What Is a Profession of Faith?
27:43 The Beauty (and Tension) of Baptism Practices
29:49 Is Reformed Baptism Missing Something?
30:59 Can You Be Baptized More Than Once?
34:27 Is Baptism Like Communion?
36:31 Why Repetition Doesn’t Reduce Meaning
38:01 Why People Feel the Need to Recommit
41:22 Does Baptism Give You the Holy Spirit?
43:10 John’s Baptism vs Jesus’ Baptism
47:25 What Baptism Actually Means Spiritually
50:13 Promise, Covenant, Death, Community (PCDC)
52:05 When Should You NOT Be Baptized Again?
54:13 Should This Topic Divide the Church?
57:03 Final Thoughts
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Real talk for real disciples. Each episode dives into the issues that matter most—from spiritual formation and biblical theology to leadership, culture, relationships, and how to live as a disciple-making Christian in a distracted world. It’s unfiltered, often funny, and deeply practical. We also share how our 222Disciple process is helping everyday believers grow in the gospel, get personally invested in others, and become the kind of disciple-makers Jesus envisioned in Matthew 28 and 2 Timothy 2:2. If you’re ready to take your faith seriously and multiply your life in others, this podcast is for you.
Meet Your Host
Scott Vander Ploeg
Scott Vander Ploeg is the founder of 222Disciple and has been the senior pastor at Sunlight Community Church of Port Saint Lucie since 2004. He began this ministry in the early 2000’s, which was called Sunlight Discipleship Center at the time. Since then, he’s authored all of the lessons, is front and center in its tutorial videos, all while mentoring more than 40 people himself. The ever-expanding ministry has now grown to over 580 people under his leadership. He’s passionate about one of 222Disciple’s driving principles: disciples are called to be disciple-makers.
Meet Your Host
Aaron Mamuyac
Aaron Mamuyac brings over two decades of ministry experience and a deep love for discipleship to The Disciple Standard podcast. A long-time member and now pastor at Sunlight Community Church, Aaron has served in ministry for more than 11 years and was discipled under the faithful leadership of Scott Vander Ploeg. As an ordained Minister of the Word in the Christian Reformed Church, Aaron combines biblical depth with practical wisdom, helping listeners follow Jesus with clarity and conviction. Whether he’s unpacking Scripture, interviewing guests, or offering reflections from the trenches of pastoral life, Aaron brings a warm, insightful, and grounded voice to every episode.
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